On 18 April 2014 09:14, <ghib...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:22:16 PM UTC+1, Brent wrote: > >> On 4/16/2014 2:10 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 17 April 2014 07:58, Stephen Paul King <step...@provensecure.com>wrote: >> >>> Polygamy is common for most mammals.... >>> >> >> Because most mammals don't extend their range from Africa to the >> Arctic. As I said, there's a tendency towards polygamy in hot countries, >> but it wouldn't work for humans in cold ones because more parental >> investment is required to rear offspring successfully. >> >> >> But even where the living is easy, polygamy creates the problem of young >> men without women - which tends to be socially destabilizing and favors >> raiding and warfare. Even in the muslim nations where a man can have as >> many as four wives, polygamy tends to be rare except where there is a lot >> of tribal warfare. In Utah where there are fundamentalist Mormon towns, >> boys sadly tend to be forced out on their own in their early teens. >> >> Brent >> > > Polygamy is not rare. It's the dominant structure of the entire world bar > Western culture. What you mean is, polygamous families are relatively rare > in polygamous societies. Yes...because it's all stacked toward the top. The > Chinese prince has 7000 wives. A large section has none. It's not about the > number of wives but the strong forces of natural selection the system as a > whole. Women have no status..y.at all..they are property. The low value > of female life drives female infanticide at grotesque levels....as part of > the annual routine. Child marriage....men that marry children because they > want a slave. Father's that give their daughters' over to that knowingly > and think nothing of it. Mutilation, women and girls murdered to settle > arguments....to show good faith.....and not just murdered, but subjected > to brutal, sadistic torture -- eyes wide open. And then murdered. There's a > very strong evolutionary link between all of that, and the prevailing > culture of the extended family. A child has an extended family...a clan,. > Loyalty goes there. Respect derives, and social standing. Multiple wives is > one of the natural extensions of the large extended family.....reflecting > the status of women as property. > > The West - only recently really - saw evolution in culture in the direct > of something not seen before...a revolution...a welcome one too. Reputation > based networks weakened the dependence on ex tended family and ethnic > politics. The core family unit emerged, weakening and dissolving strong > ties to relations networks. Monogamy appeared....a new for women, a totally > new and radical status for women and girls. One man, one > woman....responsibilities shared and divided. In a nutshell the antecedents > of Individualism, could the scientific revolution have taken place without > Individualism. It's hard to see how....a lot of serious thought don't > clear much any of it up nor. Hard to see how. > > Oh well. > > But yeah....Mormon excesses in Utah...thanks for heads-up > > Magnificent post. Polygamy works if it's sufficiently "stacked towards the top" of course, even in temperate climates.
Hence Alberto's inner voice saying "I want to be your passive incubator, master". Thank god we kept the genes for intelligence, independence etc from becoming sex-linked, or we'd be like Larry Niven's Kzin by now. I guess we'd be happy with that, like the Epsilons ... (the irony is that men are only really a DNA vector between women :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
