On 1 June 2014 05:44, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> My point is that I have had more "religious problem" with people who
> declare themselves as atheists than with people who declare themselves as
> agnostic or even "general" believer (with some degrees between 0 and 99% of
> 'confessionalism').
>
> By mocking the whole field of theology per se, strong atheism is an ally
> of the use of authoritative argument in the churches as it mocks all
> possible questionning, like the authoritative churches, and it hides the
> real debate (is there a physical universe or something else).
>

I agree with this, however the strong atheists have some good points about
organised religion. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, as they
say... The fact that they are unconsciously religious themselves doesn't
invaildate their arguments, it merely means their arguments also apply to
their own positive beliefs. (But that's just science!)

But I realise that you've had a problem with them personally, so I should
be more careful qhen quoting Dawkins etc.

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