OK - there are 2 future branches, A and B, each of which have equal objective probability of occurring. Ie the Born rule says each has a probability of 0.5.
However, perhaps _subjectively_, Alice sees branch A with probability 0.9 and branch B with probability 0.1, and Bob sees branch A with probability 0.1 and branch B with probability 0.9. Both A and B have an Alice and a Bob, neither of whom are zombies. But A's Bob and B's Alice would have seen the "failure" of their method of controlling their subjective outcome. The magic spell (let's say) they used to influence their futures was a dud (like Catweazle's). Cheers On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:51:35PM +1200, LizR wrote: > Sorry, I meant to type "10 future branches, all of which contain a copy of > both Alice and Bob". > > > On 10 June 2014 12:49, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 9 June 2014 16:02, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote: > > > >> Perhaps Alice gets future A with probability 0.9 and future B with > >> > > p=0.1, and Bob vice versa. > >> > > > > Sorry to be obtuse but I can't see how this works. Please could you spell > > it out as I tried to do, e.g. by assuming there are 10 future branches, > > both containing a copy of Alice and Bob. How does Alice get A with 0.9, > > etc? It doesn't appear to add up, but I may be missing something... > > > >> > >> Then there would be no zombies. But then the influence on subjective > >> probabilities is no longer infallible. > >> > >> You pays your money, and you takes your choices :). > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > >> Principal, High Performance Coders > >> Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > >> University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > >> > >> Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > >> (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Everything List" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.