On 08 Jun 2014, at 20:33, John Ross wrote:
I am not trying to prove quantum mechanics incorrect. I am trying
to prove my theory is correct. If my theory is correct, and
quantum
mechanics is inconsistent withmy theory then quantum mechanics may
very well be incorrect. There is also a possibility that on some
issues the two theories may both be correct.
QM is the only theory (or scheme of theories) which has not been
refuted for more than a century. All others theories in physics
have
been shown wrong in less than few years, when they are not
suspected
to be wrong at the start (wrong does not imply "not useful" in some
context).
So my question, which has been already asked, is simply what
happens
when you send tronnies, one by one, (or compounds of tronnies) on a
plate with two close small holes? (have you heard and think about
Young two slits experience?).
You lost me with Turing emulable.
We can come back on this later, but as you seem not so much
interested
in consciousness, that might be out of your topic, at least for
now.
Taking consciousness into account + the hypothesis that the brain
is a
natural computer might force us to make physics into a sort of
illusion entirely reducible to the study of machine's psychology or
theology. See my URL or post, if interested.
Bruno
JR
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On 07 Jun 2014, at 22:18, John Ross wrote:
I do not explain consciousness.
Fair enough. You are not searching to explain "everything".
Unfortunately, consciousness has something to say on the very
origin
of the beliefs in the physical laws. You are still an Aristotelian
theologian (taking matter for primitive or granted with the naive
identity relation (brain/mind)). To defend that relation, between
brain and mind, you will need some special sort of actual
infinities. With the thesis that a brain (or body) is Turing
emulable, you can still attach consciousness to a brain, but you
cannot attach a brain to consciousness, you can only attach an
infinity of relative universal machine states to a consciousness.
This might explain the many-world aspect of quantum mechanics.
It is
not yet clear to me what is your position on quantum mechanics, or
your explanation of the two slits experiment.
Bruno
Jr
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On 7 June 2014 04:12, John Ross <jr...@trexenterprises.com> wrote:
There is a theory of everything - my theory, "The Ross Model".
You
are a smart person and you are extremely interested in this
subject,
so sooner or later you will get around to reading my book. And I
predict you will be forced to agree with me.
I haven't yet managed to discover what the ontology of the RM is -
is the idea "primitive materialism" - that space, time, matter and
energy are fundamental? Do you attempt to explain consciousness?
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