On 17 Jun 2014, at 06:20, chris peck wrote:
>> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA
Well The Prestige is a film about obsession and the lengths people
go to meet them. Its not about the UDA.
Of course, as it doesn't make the FPI explicitly, but it is a good
introduction.
It does contain a teleport machine in it and the naughty magician
keeps duplicating himself and killing off one of the duplicates.
At one point, when arguing about what sacrifices he has made for his
art, he points out that every night he is in a state of horror
because he doesn't know whether he will end up at the back of the
stage or drowning in the vat. ofcourse, he is just in a state of
denial because he ought to know precisely what he will experience:
survival to the prestige AND drowning.
That is logically impossible from the first person point of view. You
describe the 3p view only.
Its not as if there could be any doubt about it.
Yes, for the 3p description.
No, for the 1p view.
The set up makes both experiences certain.
In the 3p pictures, yes. Not in the 1p views. Given the protocol
given, you cannot from the first person view simultaneously drawn and
not-drawn. There is no telepathy between the copies.
Bruno
But its not really a flaw in script, because the audience sees it
clearly. Its why its such a macabre ending. Here is man so obsessed
with bettering his rival that he reduces his life to a living hell
drowning himself every night. The goody magician's sacrifices are
bad enough, losing a finger, losing a wife, losing a brother. But
the naughty magicians sacrifices are deliberate and knowing self
annihilation and its this that makes his story so horrifically tragic.
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:53:15 -0400
Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
From: johnkcl...@gmail.com
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
>> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years.
> So we agree on this.
Yes.
> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA
I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The
prestige" is saying something profound that rings true and thinking
that the things that the Universal Dance Association says that are
profound are not true and the things that it's saying that are true
are not profound.
John K Clark
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