I presume you ask me (John M)? If I can explain what I think, I am a poor agnostic. (I am one anyway...) What I am asking about are statements of fixed (detailed?) knowledge in topics we cannot know at all. (Could not suppress my Adam-Eve joke with the spare rib).
Seriously: (and plagiarizing my wife's ideas) it is most likely that WE (THE EARTH)* have been *colonized and fertilized to develop thinking(?) folks. Maybe the dinos were eliminated because they diverted into just eating and growing instead of developing their Socrates. To throw a big rock (66M years ago) is an easy job to extinguish a miscreant from Earth. Our 4Byo colonization is supervised by 'Zookeepers' we don't detect. We don't really know what is their beef. What do they need from us and what is a mistake committed by us that eliminates our existence. We think only human. But some "intelligence" should be applied - as we hope today, for our own benefit - with a content we think we can comprehend (sort of). YOU (anybody) cannot know what WAS before such 'colonization' and what transpired into us (the Earth). Not even what IS in distances and systems we cannot penetrate. We just should be happy in our ignorance. Did I come close? On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 6:52 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't understand the question. I'm attempting to make further deductions > from the self-sampling assumption, as used in the "Doomsday Argument". > Please could you explain what you think I'm saying, so I can attempt a > sensible reply to your comment? > > > On 31 August 2014 07:38, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Liz: >> and HOW ON EARTH (verbatim: this one) would you know the entire World? >> Not to ask: what would you call 'populous'? Is a trillion 'many'? >> Please do ot quote Adam and Eve, Adam started out to be alone with a >> spare rib. And they(?) made the entire crowd. >> JM >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:48 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Actually I'm surprised that there are *no* "populous" universes >>> anywhere in the string landscape / level 4 multiverse (if such exist). Or >>> perhaps it's more likely that there are, but their proportion is so much >>> lower than our sort that the chances are still better to find oneself in a >>> universe where the life of civilisations is either nasty, brutish and >>> short, or involves us evolving into an "Childhood's End" style Overmind. >>> >>> >>> On 30 August 2014 08:25, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Russell: in your note >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Yes, it does. And that might explain the Fermi paradox. It doesn't >>>> rule vastly distributed "hive minds", though. Perhaps our future is to be >>>> assilimated with the Borg.* >>>> >>>> isn't there an *"out" * missing in the 2nd line after 'rule', or >>>> not? >>>> >>>> John M >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Russell Standish < >>>> li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 10:01:38AM +1200, LizR wrote: >>>>> > > Yes, I am hoping for a gradual decline ... what does the DDA have >>>>> to say >>>>> > about other sentient species? If, say, the Andromedans were going to >>>>> > colonise their entire galaxy, we'd almost certainly have been born >>>>> one of >>>>> > them. Does it therefore predict that there will be no vastly populous >>>>> > conscious race in any part of this universe or any other? >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it does. And that might explain the Fermi paradox. It doesn't >>>>> rule vastly distributed "hive minds", though. 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