Yes I also wondered if this occurred in black holes, but of course we can't
find out .... well not safely, or communicably! If these energies don't
occur in SN etc then I certainly don't see us producing them in the near
future. I only guessed SN because Hawking said we'd need an accelerator
"larger than Earth"  which doesn't sound THAT unfeasible for something that
might occur naturally (like those giant space lasers). Of course he didn't
say how much larger! Maybe he meant "larger than the solar system" or the
galaxy, which of course makes a natural equivalent seem a lot less likely.


On 9 September 2014 05:52, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> On 9/7/2014 9:07 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>> If I'm allowed to answer (not being a physicist) ...
>>
>> I had the impression that this was already considered to be a possibility
>> - that the current state of the universe might be a false vaccuum (or
>> something like that) which could eventually drop into a lower energy state
>> and destroy the current universe, a bit like dropping a chunk of ice-9 in
>> the ocean.
>>
>> It occurs to me that surely the amount of energy directed at a given
>> region of space (which I assume contains lots of Higgs bosons, or at least
>> the Higgs field) must exceed the specified limit inside things like
>> supernovae and quasars, so presumably if this was likely it would have
>> happened by now???
>>
>
> I don't think you can get energies like 10^11Gev even in supernova. The
> only place I can think of that might produce that kind of energy is
> approaching the singularity of a black hole.  Of course we very much doubt
> there is singularity (infinities are in equations, not reality), but maybe
> that's how Nature avoids a singularity.
>
> Brent
>
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