On 06 Oct 2014, at 20:15, meekerdb wrote:
Here's an interesting interview of a philosopher who is interested
in the question of whether God exists. The interesting thing about
it, for this list, is that "God" is implicitly the god of theism,
and is not "one's reason for existence" or "the unprovable truths of
arithmetic".
How do you know that? How could you know that. IF comp is true, and if
Christianism is true, the meeting with St-Ptere and the "dogma" of the
Church might well be among the unprovable truth (unprovable by you and
similar) of arithmetic.
I doubt this, of course, but we just don't know. What is true and even
provable, is that if we are consistent, in that case the discourse of
the christians should be mute on this, and the Christians should just
trust God for the advertising. So the behavior of some Christians
might be inconsistent with arithmetic, but not necessarily the
doctrine. But then the behavior of most institutionalized religion is
already inconsistent or unsound with arithmetic, and the
institutionalization is consistent like the provability of the false
is consistent (but unsound) with arithmetic. That would mean that
institutionalization *is* the theological trap that the machines
already warn us against.
Bruno
Brent
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http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/05/can-wanting-to-believe-make-us-believers/
Gary Gutting: "This is the 12th and last in a series of interviews
about religion that I am conducting for The Stone. The interviewee
for this installment is Daniel Garber, a professor of philosophy at
Princeton University, specializing in philosophy and science in the
period of Galileo and Newton. In a week or two, I'll conclude with a
wrap-up column on the series."
...
Daniel Garber: "Certainly there are serious philosophers who would
deny that the arguments for the existence of God have been
decisively refuted. But even so, my impression is that proofs for
the existence of God have ceased to be a matter of serious
discussion outside of the domain of professional philosophy of
religion. And even there, my sense is that the discussions are
largely a matter of academic interest: The real passion has gone out
of the question."
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