On 20 Nov 2014, at 13:59, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
This, I comprehend, I was just musing that why just keep the same
concept of universes? Why not go tegmark, or trans tegmark,
Computationalism has gone trans-tegmark well before Tegmark.
with this. Why not compare the super cosmos to be a data storing
thing like a database, rather than an acorn, hold merely biological
data? Since reality seems to be math(s) based, why not computational?
Computationalism does not leave much choice in the matter, but the
physical, psychological, and theological realties are shown top be
highly non computational. Arithmetic seen from inside is so big that
even mathematicalism fails, even if it remains a good approximation.
yet, the first person notion are not mathematical object, nor even
anything describable in a third person way.
Why not have a giant SAN, a storage area network, rather then just a
random access memory with lower mem? Its just a conjecture from, and
idiot, me, but since people like Seth Lloyd have conjectured that
the universe does processing, I am dropping the other shoe on this.
I have very often explain that IF "we" are machine, then the universe
cannot be a machine a priori, unless some number's conspiracy (which
is not so easy to discard as the Riemann hypothesis does indicate some
perversity in the behavior of numbers. The Moonshine conjecture
indicates this too.
Bruno
If only one universe results, information has been created -
genuinely random bit(s) of data that didn't exist before, such as
which way a photon went or whether a cat is alive or dead. It's only
in the multiverse view that the information content is preserved,
because you have all possible outcomes and overall they cancel out
(like in "Theory of nothing" but on a smaller scale.)
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From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 19, 2014 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: Two apparently different forms of entropy
On 20 November 2014 12:04, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com
> wrote:
Ah! You don't think that the collapse in one universe, creates one,
in which the information is preserved? Not uncovers one, splits of a
new clone, like an amoeba does. Perhaps there are universes that
split off when a decision gets made where, where it is analogous to
a data file. If this is so, then part of the multiverse is a
relational database. Call it Oracle-1 Delta Googleplex. I have dibbs
on the name. Patent Pending!
If only one universe results, information has been created -
genuinely random bit(s) of data that didn't exist before, such as
which way a photon went or whether a cat is alive or dead. It's only
in the multiverse view that the information content is preserved,
because you have all possible outcomes and overall they cancel out
(like in "Theory of nothing" but on a smaller scale.)
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