On 1/3/2015 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Jan 2015, at 09:28, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 31 Dec 2014, at 20:12, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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On 30 Dec 2014, at 01:38, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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>>The Soviet union can be formally considered a "democracy". There is nothing external or
formal that may distinguish a democracy from any other regime. Since every modern state
has the same elements. All of them use the momenclature of the age. The word democracy
is the most overused world in this century togeter with "scientific".
No word comes close to matching the overuse of the word "god" however.
Yes, ... and no.
For the greeks "God" was just a pointer to the truth we are searching, through theories
and observation. It led to math and physics, + inquiry about which one is more
fundamental, and what might still be beyond math and physics. That use of God remains
in some language expression, like when we say "only God knows", which means "I don't know".
But that is how the word was used in the Hellenistic period; I was referring to modern
usage that has associated it with a monotheistic value system.
I think monotheism is only the "personal" view of the monism of the parmenides
one.
I think that the theology of the christians and jews reflect the monism of those who
believe in an unifying truth. The fairy tales is a pedagogical popularization, who get
wrong when the religion is (too much) mixed with politics.
But it necessarily is mixed with politics, it's main function is political because the
"unifying truths" are the cultural proscriptions about behavior and values. God is the
law-giver; he's the tyrant writ large who sees all, judges all, and rewards and punishes
all. The truths of mathematics and physics and biology are of little relevance. His
"truths" are about procreation and war and ethics and loyalty to the tribe.
>>Which comes from the ONE of the greeks, mixed with the Jewish legend. Well, if you
forget the superstition, it has some important relation. Monotheism is a reflexion of
parmenides or Plotinus monism.
Perhaps you are referring to the Jewish mystic concept of the sephiroth kether (kether
means crown in Hebrew) it is that which is manifest yet cannot be named; the first
divine emanation out of pure abstract space… that is without form or definition yet
which fills and animates all things…. The divine spark so to speak.
I think so.
A few examples “a God fearing” man (or woman) is upstanding, moral and considered (by
other god-fearers at least) to be superior to those who do not fear god;
But this "fearing of God" is a mystery to me. God should be good. Only the devil should
be feared. (between us).
Unless you are the devil. Unless you don't want to obey God's orders to stone adulterers
and conquer unbelievers and tithe to the priests.
Brent
"You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God
hates all the same people you do."
- Anne Lamott
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