Chris and Brent,

    

On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 1:42:43 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote:
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> Roger: It seems to me, too, that there are problems with zero dimensions, 
> or point particles.  I've never understood why physicists don't question 
> the idea of a zero-dimensional point particle.  Oh well.
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> Of course they've questioned.  That's how they came up with string theory.
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>  Which is an elegant aspect of String Theory, I think. The infinitely 
> small zero-dimensional point is an assumption IMO (nothing in reality 
> indicates any actual necessary for its existence), and it is an abstraction 
> that causes all kinds of problems for physicists.
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> Even at the abstract level of meta-information: the finer the definition 
> of a point (or any measured property in general) the bigger the definition 
> must become, in order to hold the extra information required with each 
> scale down into finer and finer grain sizes.
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> Roger: I stand corrected.  That is a good point for string theory and, I'm 
> guessing, other similar theories, like loop quantum gravity, etc.   Thanks 
> Brent and Chris.  In a related point and building on what Chris is 
> saying, it seems like a lot of physicists are still grappling with 
> infinities.  This seems to me to be sort of related to the idea of zero 
> size points.  If I understood what Chris was saying, as you get closer and 
> closer to infinitely small or infinitely large amounts, you need more 
> information to describe that thing.  It seems like it might be easier if we 
> could have step functions where in our universe, there's only finite sized 
> things (can't get to infinitely small or infinitely big.  There's a 
> smallest size; such as the Planck scale), and you have to take a  step up 
> or down in POV to see infinitely small or big things.  What I'm thinking is 
> that if you could consider our universe as an infinite set of Planck size 
> chunks, and then view this set from the POV (good acronym from Chris!) of 
> an infinite observer outside the set, this observer would not be able to 
> see the boundaries/surfaces of these chunks (they'd be infinitesimally 
> small from his POV), so it would look like a smooth, continuous space.   
> That is, the way you perceive a thing as either being infinitesimally small 
> or a finite size or infinitely big depends on your point of view, your 
> perspective, of that thing.  I wonder if they could use this type of thing 
> in working on combining quantum mechanics and relativity?  I've put some of 
> this infinite set stuff at my website and over at fqxi.org in their essay 
> contests, and it actually seemed to get a modest amount of positive 
> feedback.  But, a lot of ignoring it as well! :-)  
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    By the way, I live in Columbus, OH, and OSU just won the national 
football championship.  Plus, the Big Ten did well in their bowl games this 
year!  I couldn't help it.  I just had to say congrats to OSU and the rest 
of the Big Ten!  I know this is unrelated.   

 

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