> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:07 pm, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 1/21/2015 10:09 PM, Kim Jones wrote: >> But the laws surely are not random. Laws cannot be random. Look, the >> universe is a setup job. Either we are simulated and the limitation to our >> minds is intentional or "we" are enjoying a ride of some sort where we are >> real and the ride is the simulation. I go for that interpretation - that's >> comp. > > ISTM that in comp, computation is fundamental.
Well, number is fundamental. Computation is a way of extracting reality from number. I see it like that. Computation is a way of seeing. A form of perception. How numbers see each other. I am equally baffled by statements like this as you. > Everything true is equally real, just not equally fundamental. Yes > All true relations are considered real. Yes > Provable relations are both real and believed and there are sets of belief > that are related so as to constitute the consciousness of persons. I would say yes. Persons are constellations of beliefs. Just as the body is a constellation of other discreet entities, persons are made of modules of beliefs that give rise to their perception (as emergent quality of comsciousness or as comsciousness itself). This can be checked by changing someone's perception of something and you will instantly see their belief about that thing change as well. K > > Brent > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
