Liz: the only 'nit' I am 'picking' is agnosticism in the sense that we like to draw conclusions on the partial image of the existence (Nature?) that so far transpired to us. If an 'evolutionary theory' includes only events when nothing goes wrong, (i.e.: events leading to massive extinctions OUT!) it is not what we should 'pick'. Maybe I still did not recover from my very early understanding of evolution when it meant (to me) to evolve towards some 'higher sandard/format' (or call it as you wish) and I saw it as some teleological aberration.. Your definition (thanks) still implies a 'better adoption' to some (still) incomplete view. I salute your "it's possible". John M
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:47 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12 March 2015 at 14:14, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> No kidding!!!! the dinosaur and company was extinct in the midst of their >> utmost fittnes for survival. >> > > No kidding. Although I have no idea why you're making a big deal of this, > presumably you know all this stuff. But to recap - evolution is a process > through which organisms gradually become better adapted to living in their > environment through differential reproductive success. As I mentioned, it's > possible that consciousness helps increase the chances of that success. > Also, clearly, massive extinction events are outside the purview of > evolutionary theory - but so what? You appear to be nitpicking, or rather > not even that since so far you don't appear to have actually picked any. > > >> (Don't even mention *ALL* the domains of fittness - we cannot know >> beyond the limitations of our so far achieved model of the world what ELSE >> may be around, so conclusions are illusorical.) >> > > I have no idea what you're talking about. > >> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:04 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 12 March 2015 at 13:52, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> That sure would mean "surviving benefit" - where does the term >>>> "evolutionary" come from and why? >>>> >>> >>> Evolution is reasonably well described as the survival of the fittest. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
