On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote: > No, when you measure the spin of an electron, you don't have memories of > seeing spin up and spin down,
That is true you don't have such memories, but the electron does. Because of this if you DON'T measure the spin of the electron but still want to calculate what the electron will probably do next you MUST assume it is in BOTH the spin up and spin down state. If you do measure it and then preform the calculation things will get a very different result. John K Clark > > and never will, it's exactly the same as washington and moscow... You are inconsistent... you won't acknowledge it, but it's perfectly normal as you are inconsistent, bad faith is a symptom of that. > > Quentin > >> >> When a single electron is at the 2 slits the universe splits because the the electron went through slot A in one and slot B in another. But after that when the electron hits the photographic film (or a brick wall) there is no longer any difference between the 2 universes so they recombine but the information about the slots they went through is retained and this produces the interference pattern. >> >> This is also why we don't see weird quantum effects in our everyday lives, in the 2 slit case the difference between the 2 universes is very very small so it's easy to make them identical again, but if you make a macroscopic change the difference is so huge it would be virtually impossible to make them identical again so the universes could recombine. >> >> Richard Feynman said that the 2 slit experiment incorporates all the weirdness of quantum mechanics, and the MWI explains that weirdness, but if you refuse to let the Washington Man and the Moscow Man recombine then you could only analogize a simpler and much much duller version of that experiment; you fire electrons at two slits, and that's it. The electrons never hit photographic film or a brick wall or anything else, the electrons just continue forever into infinite space, and that doesn't even come close to incorporating the full richness of Quantum Mechanics. >> >> So if you want to use the duplicating machine stuff as a analogy for the MWI you've GOT to allow the Washington Man and the Moscow Man to recombine. >> >> John K Clark >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
