On Saturday, April 4, 2015, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marc...@ulb.ac.be');>> wrote: > > > Imagine the iterated duplication, the average history in the diaries >> obtained contained histories like W (I was unable to >> > predit that), W again! > > > Bruno Marchal keeps making the exact same error over and over and over > again. Whatever is in the diary that the Washington Man is carrying is > totally irrelevant because it was not written by the Washington Man he's > just carrying it, the diary was written by the Helsinki Man. And Bruno > Marchal just can't kick that personal pronoun addiction. For the 123rd time > WHO THE HELL IS "I"? >
"I" is a single entity travelling through time in the forward direction. If you have duplication you realise this is an illusion. However, brains are strongly wired up to persist in this illusion, and the result is that if you are teleported to two places it will seem to you that you are teleported to just one with probability 1/2. The original and the copy know it's not objectively true, but they can't help the feeling. > > I don't see what is not clear with that. >> > > The "I" in the above sentence causes no unambiguity because matter copying > machines do not yet exist and because there was no prediction about what > Mr. I will experience in the future; otherwise it would be so ambiguous > there would be no way to determine even in theory if the prediction turned > out to be correct or not; in other words the sentence would be meaningless. > > > >> > Nobody grasp where you see a difficulty. >> > > Perhaps because like Bruno Marchal they can't stop themselves from > effortlessly spewing out personal pronouns without thinking. That's fine > for everyday conversation, poetry and even most technical writing, but > personal pronouns don't work worth a damn in thought experiments that try > to uncover the fundamental nature of personal identity. > > > And the step 4 question is >> > > Is step 4 infested with personal pronouns just like everything else Bruno > Marchal writes about personal identity? > > John K Clark > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');> > . > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','everything-list@googlegroups.com');>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
