Your suggestion presupposes a limit to reach that we don't necessarily have to assume.
Theories of everything but the scientific observer (what tends to be called a TOE historically) and Theories of everything including the scientific observer.( what I am suggesting as a real TOE) .... Can be different categories of scientific account. Find the way that this can be the case and you have solved the problem. Confuse the two and become part of the problem. Fail to realize there are two theory categories and you are also part of the problem. This dual-'theory' state is a Comp-agnostic position and forms a place from which arguments about COMP get clarity. The magic of COMP being true occurs when the two kinds are identities. Under what conditions might that be? Rhetorical question intended to provoke a bit of thought. Cheers Colin -----Original Message----- From: "John Mikes" <jami...@gmail.com> Sent: 15/05/2015 7:32 AM To: "everything-list@googlegroups.com" <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Theories that explain everything explain nothing Colin: wouldn't it fit to call "TOE" - Theory of Everything WE KNOW ABOUT? or: Everything in our reach? I mentioned my agnostic views. Greetings John Mikes On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, colin hales <col.ha...@gmail.com> wrote: Perhaps better.... All posited (so far) scientific TOE are actually wrongly named. They would be correctly named: "Theories predicting how the universe appears to an assumed scientific observer inside it" Or maybe "Theories of everything except the scientific observer" By Scientific observer I mean consciousness... What scientific observation uses/is. >From here you might ask yourself what a scientist would be doing if they >_were_ explaining the scientific observer (consciousness). For whatever that >is, it's not a member of the set of the kind of science outcomes in which >these so-called TOE sit, smugly claiming everything while actually failing >without realizing. Cheers Colin From: Bruce Kellett Sent: 14/05/2015 9:15 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Theories that explain everything explain nothing As an aside to recent discussions, it is interesting to point out that physics has some of the problems associated with over-confidence in ideas coming from pure intuition too. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/has-cosmology-run-into-a-creative-crisis This article by Ross Anderson in Aeon Magazine surveys some of the recent history of press announcements by leading cosmologists. Believing too strongly in your own pet theory can be a dangerous pastime. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
