On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 11:59:41AM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote:
> 
> I disagree. I do not think the quantum mechanics /ab initio/ is in
> any way possible. 

This is what I do in appendix D of my book. It then behooves you to
point out where exactly that is wrong. 

> Physics is done with respect to observations and
> experiments. Without prior observations we would not even know what
> variables we might want to write down, much less how they behave
> dynamically. I know it is the belief of most on this list that the
> subjective plays a central role in all of this, but I disagree. I do
> not think you can do physics, or even understand consciousness (the
> subjective) without reference to experience of the objective world.
> 

Modulo the fact that "objective world" is a controversial concept, I
agree. Of course one needs to refer to experience, or observation in
general. But one doesn't need to refer to specific experience, unless
one specifically needs to invoke a position basis, or an energy basis
or whatever.


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