On 02 Mar 2016, at 04:29, Dan wrote:
Also- minimization of Fisher information is one shockingly effective
approach to statistic inference of models for complex natural
phenomena (e.g., ones involving multiple evolving interacting
agents). When you don't know the true probability distribution of
values for some natural process, the probability distribution which
is most likely to be accurate is the one which minimizes Fisher
information when constrained by the variance of the samples you have
observed.
That is interesting, and there is some substance in the work of Roy
Frieden. It might help at some point in the derivation of physics from
a sigma_1 complete or Turing universal theory.
In other words, complex natural phenomena operate as if they were
intentionally trying to minimize our ability to symbolically reduce
them.
That is a form of locality (continuity, computability, assumption),
but to get the mind part of the mind body problem, we have to derive
it in the physics, even if we assume it in the ontology trough the
notion of Turing universal.
This is, I think, is just a restatement of Gödel's incompleteness
theorems.
It is certainly not a restatement of Gödel's incompleteness theorems.
Any serious precision on this might be an interesting thesis subject.
It might be easier to connect this to Chaitin theorem and to the
(simple/immune) theoretical computer science notion of Emil Post,
which leads also to a form of incompleteness, instead of the creative/
productive of the Gödelian incompleteness phenomenon.
On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 10:13:51 PM UTC-5, Dan wrote:
"ELUDING THE DEMON – HOW EXTREME PHYSICAL INFORMATION APPLIES. TO
SEMIOSIS AND COMMUNICATION"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBX26OD0dXw
Has this work by Roy Frieden and Vinicius Romanini been reviewed
here already?
I read Roy Frieden book, but I don't know this work, and I am not, ...
have to think.
I am discovering Benjamin Pierce, who I think is the father of C. S.
Pierce. I think the father convince me better than his son.
The term information is easily misused and sometime mystified. The
meaning of an information (string of symbols) is relative to the
universal machine which takes it as input.
Bruno
Also wanted to share the interview for forthcoming video game "No
Man's Sky" below for two reasons: 1) self-similarity and recursion
produced via compact program such as Lindenmayer system (procedural
generation) appear to cause so much apparent diversity and
complexity, and 2) it reveals importance of Fisher information for
understanding our universe in the following way: the world is only
rendered dynamically for a player when there is a player to observe.
Without an observer, there is no transfer of information. Frieden's
EPI variational principles reveal that the process of information
transfer itself can be used to derive solutions to Euler–Lagrange
equations such as all scientific laws in physics as well as social
sciences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-kifCYToAU
One other fascinating video! Evolving cellular automata using
genetic algorithms reveals that information transfers from
generation to generation to acheive global coordination/computation
in the form of "particle physics."
https://youtu.be/hdRTcrTYfiQ?list=PLF0b3ThojznRyDQlitfUTzXEXwLNNE-mI
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