On 4 August 2016 at 09:51, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On 4/08/2016 9:30 am, smitra wrote: > >> On 04-08-2016 01:16, Brent Meeker wrote: >> >>> On 8/3/2016 4:09 PM, smitra wrote: >>> >>> On 04-08-2016 00:12, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >>>> >>>> Only if you wake up and find out winning the lottery was a >>>>> mistake, >>>>> which seems less likely than waking up a winner. Waking up as one >>>>> of >>>>> the many copies who didn't win is not one of the options - those >>>>> copies are not continuations of the you who won the lottery. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm imagining waking up after a night of heavy drinking with >>>> memories gradually returning. Now, you can, of course, condition >>>> everything on the person who will find that he won the lottery. But >>>> making that a hard part of my identity doesn't make sense to me, >>>> otherwise you could not be the same person and forget about it, or >>>> consider being the same person who participated in the lottery who >>>> then went on to win it. >>>> >>>> Now,while this boils down to an arbitrary definition of personal >>>> identity, we should be consistent about this; you can be the same >>>> person as the won who had not yet won it, and you could imagine >>>> being a person who did not win it, then you'll likely end up waking >>>> up as a copy in another branch who did not win it. >>>> >>> >>> That seems to invoke a dualism, such that there's only one real "you" >>> who may be in different branches at different times. I'd say that if >>> "you" wake up as a copy in another branch where "you" didn't win, it's >>> because "you" didn't win. It's the same as saying the man who sees >>> Moscow didn't "wake up" as the man who sees Washington. >>> >>> Brent >>> >> >> We can turn this into a reverse Bruno-like problem. If your memory is >> temporarily cleared then copies of different branches merge. The branches >> will of course be different, but you without a memory of having won in the >> branch where you did win is the same you as the you in another branch were >> you did not win where you also have forgotten about not winning. >> > > Actually, there will objective evidence as to whether or not you have won > the lottery. There will be a winning number and you will have a ticket that > will have this number on it or not, regardless of whether you forget > anything or not. The idea that branches in the MWI can recombine after the > relevant quantum measurement has been irreversibly recorded is nonsense. If you win the lottery today there are some branches of the multiverse where you forget you won and all evidence of winning is erased, or you discover you were dreaming or deluded. But I think these possibilities are less likely (smaller in measure) than the ones where you actually have won, which although unlikely is not completely incredible, like realising that you are God or that you have been turned into a frog. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
