Dear John Clark, it is in most cases very entertaining to read your topical summer - saults, no matter in what matter. You, as most participants, DARE to go as far as "atheist", not further (and I mean: you do not delve into the domain of the AGNOSTIC) - the starting point of which is IGNORANCE in (al)most ANYTHING we talk about with pretty little to claim some scientific doubt in (call it 'knowledge'?).
I deny the ruling power of the majority in any spoken language as to the meaning of a word. It change/s/d so much that any observing moment is of limited value. Besides you 'pick' a vocabulary from a limited choice of the English-called variations for testimony. I admire the broadness of information of the list-participants - which is not like consenting. Created the World? Well, IS THERE a World at all? Logically flawlessly? Well, who's logic? And So On. John Mikes pushing hard at 95 On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:43 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bruno Marchal via googlegroups.com wrote: > > >> >> There is no "maybe" about it, when it comes to the meaning of words >>> the majority is ALWAYS right, >> >> > > > >> If you are right, then physicists are wrong on many word, as a i saw in >> a BBC broadcasting where people were interviewed on many elementary notion >> in physics, and have shown to have a pregalilean physics. > > > What the hell does that have to do with the price of eggs? Physical ideas > are objectively true or false, but the definition of words is subjective. > Words mean whatever the most people say they mean, and the entire point of > words is communication, so if you have your own private meaning of a word > known by nobody but you then it is utterly useless. > > > > Then you confuse the greek-indian notion of God, > > > Confuse my ass! This has NOTHING to do with God, this has to do with the > meaning of words > and nothing more > . Words have no intrinsic meaning, the only meaning word have is the > meaning people decide to give them. and those meanings always change with > time. In Shakespeare's day if you were "egregious" then you were > distinguished, if you were "nice" then you were silly and if you were > "silly" then you were blessed. It would be silly (and I don't mean > blessed) to say we're right and Shakespeare was wrong, we were both right > in our day because people have changed they mind about what words mean and > the majority is ALWAYS right. > > > Yet, christians, like muslims and jews have kept alive their platonic >> roots/tradition, and in that sense, >> > can be said less wrong than some materialist theory. Why some atheists >> are so inclined to forget all about a millenium of rational theology is >> weird, > > > > This has NOTHING to do with Christians, Muslims, Jews, Plato, > rationalists, materialists, theology or atheists; this has to do with > vocabulary and the > fact > that words mean what the majority of people say they mean. And what the > majority of people say a word means always changes; as of 2017 the English > word "G-O-D" means a omnipotent omniscient intelligent conscious being who > created the universe. > T > hat point is not even worth of debate, today that's just what people mean > by that word, except of course for people who for whatever the reason are > afraid to use the word "atheist" to describe themselves, so for them the > English word "G-O-D" means a fuzzy grey blob that is non-intelligent and > non-conscious and not a person, and that's just silly. And I don't mean > blessed. > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
