On 21 Apr 2017, at 21:40, John Clark wrote:
Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.acbe> wrote:
> Do you understand this:
you are duplicated 24 times per second during 1h30 into as many
copies can be sent in front of one of the 2^(16180 * 10000)
possible images on a screen with 16180 * 10000 pixels, which can be
black or white each.
It is a duplication iterated (16180 * 10000) * (60 * 90) * 24 times,
so at the end there are 2^(16180 * 10000) * (60 * 90) * 24 copies.
In the original question you are asked to judge the following
prediction made by the guy before the iterated duplications
0) I will die instantaneously
1) I will experience seeing all movies (at once)
2) A black and white movie (perhaps quite avant-garde)
3) The always black movie
4) The always white movie
5) A (silent) Hitchcock movie
6) A (silent) Hitchcock movie with greek subtitle
7) A random movie (white noise)
8) Something else (to be justified).
John Clark understands the setup but not the question because a
very odd word was used in it, "I". Not that predictions, correct
ones or incorrect ones, have anything to do with a sense of personal
individuality but John Clark predicts that John Clark will
experience all of the above except for #0. John Clark will be able
to narrow that down as soon as Bruno says which of the 2^(16180 *
10000) * (60 * 90) * 24 John Clarks is Mr. I.
Because you forget again that you have already agree that all John
Clarks are the same person as the one before the experience is done
(yet with different personal subjective experiences), and so we have
to interview them all, or a good sample to test the prediction (made
before), recalling also that the prediction asked was about the 1p
experience, and when doing that we see that the prediction "I will see
all movies" is falsified by all the Mr. I relevant here, and actually,
with a reasonable sample they all wrote in their diary, 'I saw white
noise', as can be shown by elementary statistics.
Now, you will make the 3_1 moves, and I will correct it by saying that
the question was not on the 3-1 (that *you* have always introduced,
not me), and thus you are in fact eliminating all personal experiences
of the copies, taking into account none of them, given that none will
say "I have seen all movies". And the "I" is not ambiguous at all,
they all refer to John Clark, yet in quite different contexts, on
which the question was all about.
Here, in the best case you do a bad "word salad", or, in the worst,
you do eliminate the singular personal consciousness of your copies.
All the john clark will say "I have seen one movie", and the vast
majority have seen a "white noise" movie, and if any of them do that
experience again, most of them would bet on "7)", hoping that now,
they have understood, what was asked.
Bruno
John K Clark
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