On 28 May 2017, at 05:46, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 09:24:31PM -0500, Jason Resch wrote:
Regarding special relatively and collapse, I think the point is
that two
observers in different reference frames can have different
presents. Two
humans walking past each other on the sidewalk may have presents that
include the Andromeda Galaxy hours apart in time. (See "Andromeda
Paradox"). So if something on Earth collspses the wave everywhere and
instantly (in the present) which present is it collapsed in?
I think this even more clearly shows the incompatibility between
collapse
theories and special relatively, beyond just pointing to the FTL
influences
as violations; this shows now we have to somehow use an objective
reference
frame which relatively tells us does not exist. And this leads to
collapse
events happening in different times/places for different observers,
even
ones walking past each other on a sidewalk.
Forgetting about JC's peepee for the minute, ISTM that relativity is
exclusively a 3p theory, whereas QM is both a 1pm and 3p theory. The
1p version of QM looks rather like Copenhagen, with wavefunction
collapses, and the 3p looks more like Everett, with deterministic wave
functions and many worlds.
The incompatibility between relativity and wave function collapse can
be seen as a manifestation of the incommensurate nature of the 1p/3p
distinction.
OK. And QM (without collapse) makes cosmology into 1p plural. The
contagion of the superposition entails that we are sharing the
"duplication boxes".
Bruno
Cheers
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