On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 , Terren Suydam <terren.suy...@gmail.com> wrote:
your point, over and over again, is about the limitations of pronouns in > the presence of a duplicating machine. Yes. > > True enough, but irrelevant. The thought experiment asks the question "what one and only one city will YOU see after YOU have been duplicated and become two?", so of course the meaning of the personal pronoun in the question is relevant! How could it not be? > > > Pronouns aren't necessary to see the point of the thought experiment. > If the dumb thing has a point at all it's to show that yesterday neither the Moscow man nor the Washington man could have predicted which city they would see, and I agree they couldn't. And it's not just predictions they couldn't make, they couldn't do *ANYTHING *yesterday because yesterday was before the duplication so they didn't exist yesterday. However the Helsinki man did exist yesterday and the Helsinki man correctly predicted yesterday that the Moscow man will be the one that will see Moscow and the Washington man will the one that will see Washington and that both will have equally vivid memories of being the Helsinki man yesterday . And if there is something else that needs predicting nobody on this list has ever said what it is , and we've been talking about this damn idiot thing for years. > > > All that's necessary is to imagine or simulate the first person > perspective of the one who gets duplicated. > Which ONE "*THE* first person perspective " is Terren Suydam referring to "*THE* first person perspective " in Moscow or "*THE* first person perspective " in Washington or "*THE* first person perspective " in Helsinki? John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
