On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 2:37:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:
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> On 11/15/2017 12:06 PM, agrays...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote: 
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> > But if it tunnels into existence at t=0, how can it be infinite in 
> > extent? I find that egregiously hard to imagine, plus the fact that 
> > one has to use QM to explain the tunneling, and that, ipso facto, 
> > seems to imply it's infinitesimally small in spatial extent t=0 at 
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> A limitation of imagination.  Nothing about tunneling assumes a size. 
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> Brent 
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Agreed. My imagination is not the be-all, or end-all of anything. But isn't 
it claimed that Einstein's field equations breakdown earlier than Planck 
time, and this is where QM must be invoked, when the universe is presumably 
very small in spatial extent?  Alternatively, doesn't tunneling assume QM, 
which is a theory about the micro world. As I recall the concept is limited 
to QM. AG

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