On 1/22/2018 4:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
  
 
  
    Sleep probably serves multiple and also orthogonal functions in animals. I 
agree as well, that on some levels it is a deep mystery.    
  
 
  It is death training, perhaps, also.  
 
 Didn't we just discuss a paper showing that one is conscious even while 
asleep. 
     In lucid dream state perhaps. On the other hand if one has no memory or 
recollection of when one was asleep can you really assign consciousness to it? 
Can conscious be truly conscious if it is also inaccessible to the subject of 
said consciuosness?   
 
 
 I think that last is dualistic error.  There's no conscious being that has to 
observe you being conscious.  I know that even when a person is not dreaming, 
they can be awakened just by whispering their name.
   That is interesting, but is the fact that some low level latent ability to 
snap out of a deep sleep by hearing your name whispered really all that 
compelling an indication of the sleeping subject being in a conscious state. It 
could be a low level pre or sub conscious mental program that is left running 
during sleep, which triggers the awakening of consciousness. Is it necessarily 
an indication of consciousness? -Chris
 
 Brent
 
 
 
    -Chris
 
 Brent
 
 
 Or the building of the illusion we could not be, to build some sense of life, 
the amnesia of other life, to get an identity and preserve it against the 
prey—nature argument per authority ? I am thinking aloud … 
  Bruno 
  
 
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