On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 at 8:08 am, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> ​>​
>>  does equal intelligence imply equivalent consciousness.
>>
>
> ​
> I don't know and never will. All I know for sure is my consciousness
> changes when my brain changes and when my brain changes my consciousness
> changes; after that all I can do is hope that my extrapolation that your
> brain is involved with consciousness too is valid.
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> how do I know that other people have consciousness like mine
>>
>
> ​You don't KNOW that but you have to assume that if you wish to function
> in the world.​
>
>
> * ​> ​except in that case one relies in part on knowing that other people
>> are constructed similarly.*
>
>
> Similar? That just begs the question, which differences are important and
> which ones are not? Is the color of your skin the most important thing that
> determines the quality of your consciousness, or is it your sex, or the
> fact that your brain is
> ​made ​
> mostly of carbon and not silicon? I have a strong hunch the most
> determination of consciousness is not what your brain is made of but how it
> handles information, but I will never be able to prove it.
>

I think it can be proved. If it is false then it leads to the situation
where, as Brent has said, your consciousness changes but you don’t notice
it. An imperceptible change in consciousness is, by definition, as good as
no change. If an MP3 file is imperceptibly different from the original
uncompressed audio file then, for the purpose of listening to music, it is
equivalent.

> --
Stathis Papaioannou

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