On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 4:11:57 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 12:26 PM, <agrays...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> *> the MW advocates (Clark, Smitra, et al) who are comfortable ignoring >> the obvious absurdity of the need for creating multiple observers with >> identical memories,* > > > Historically the argument from personal incredulity has proven to be a > very poor way to figure out how the world works. It’s absurd to think that > the Earth moves and yet it does. It’s absurd to thing that random mutation > and natural selection could produce any thing as grand as a living animal > much less a human being and yet it does. In his EPR paper Einstein showed > that if existing quantum mechanics was complete then absurd things would > result and therefore quantum mechanics can’t be complete. But years later > Bell showed how a experiment to test this could be set up and a few years > after that Aspect actually did the difficult experiment and it turns out > that the absurd result that Einstein laughed about actually occurs in the > real world. >
As I see it, the collapse models are hugely LESS ornate than the MWI. Even one copy of an observer with same history as "original" observer is too much for me. Not to mention how easily these copies are created, and non locality prevails in these other universes. I don't buy it. AG > > Perhaps the problem is with the name, in a Reductio ad absurdum proof it > is not good enough to show that the result is odd or even absurd, you’ve > got to show it is logically self contradictory. > > > this being a clear case of "the cure" (for collapse) being worse than >> the disease. > > In this case the disease is the moon doesn’t exist when I’m not looking at > it, yes Many Worlds is absurd but not as absurd as that, but I admit that > is just my opinion and the universe may disagree. Whatever is true one > thing is certain, the universe is absurd. > > John K Clark > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
