On 4/26/2018 7:23 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 4:12:41 AM UTC, Brent wrote:
On 4/25/2018 7:44 PM, agrays...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote:
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:17:31 AM UTC, Brent wrote:
On 4/25/2018 6:39 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
*On its face it's absurd to think the SoL is invariant for
all observers regardless of the relative motion of source
and recipient, but it has testable consequences. The MWI has
no testable consequences, so it makes no sense to omit this
key difference in your historical comparisons with other
apparent absurdities in physics. Moreover when you factor
into consideration that non locality persists in the many
worlds postulated -- assuming you accept Bruce's analysis --
what exactly has been gained by asserting the MWI? Nothing
as far as I can tell. And the loss is significant as any
false path would be. AG*
It's one possible answer to the question of where the
Heisenberg cut is located (the other is QBism). It led to the
theory of decoherence and Zurek's theory of quantum Darwinism
which may explain Born's rule.
Brent
*
I've always found the Heisenberg Cut to be a nebulous concept, a
kind of hypothetical demarcation between the quantum and
classical worlds. *
That's the problem with it; it doesn't have an objective physical
definition. Bohr regarded it as a choice in analyzing an
experiment; you put it where ever was convenient.
*What kind of boundary are we talking about, and how could the
MWI shed any light on it, whatever it is? AG *
In MWI there is no Heisenberg cut; instead there's a splitting of
worlds which has some objective location in terms of decoherence.
Brent
The Heisenberg Cut is too vague and ill-defined to shed light on
anything, and to say the MWI is helpful is adding another layer of
confusion. AG
Decoherence is a specific well-defined physical process and it describes
the splitting of worlds. There is still some question whether it
entails the Born rule, but at worst the Born rule remains as a separate
axiom.
Brent
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.