> On 17 Aug 2018, at 21:22, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/17/2018 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> 
>>> On 16 Aug 2018, at 20:45, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net 
>>> <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/16/2018 3:05 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>>> You seem to reintroduce implicitly some collapse in the picture. That’s my 
>>>> feeling, as this is not clear. When measuring a spin: there are two 
>>>> possible values *for all possible direction of the spin*.
>>> 
>>> For all possible directions of the spin measurement.  There is nothing 
>>> about Alice or Bob that makes all directions possible except in the 
>>> classical sense of "possible”.
>> 
>> That is what I said.
> 
> No it's not.  You wrote, "for all possible direction of the spin" which 
> constitutes a full circle.  But Alice's choice of direction is a classical 
> event determined by the classical computations of her brain.  It does not 
> have rotational symmetry.  But you seem to treat the problem as if she does 
> and that there is some infinity of Alice's which together have rotational 
> symmetry.

I use only the fact that ud-du = u’d-d’u. How do *you* interpret the singlet 
state?

Bruno




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