> On 29 Oct 2018, at 23:46, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > On 10/29/2018 1:06 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 7:48:57 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 10/28/2018 9:17 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> Instead of relativism, philosophers talk of perspectivism. >>> >>> (Nietzsche is said to be the father of perspectivism. I say, actually, >>> Kant. ...) >>> >>> A Scientist sees a bunch of phenomena (recorded as data) and says, I have >>> written a theory θ in a language λ that models the data!. Other Scientists >>> say, I have done the same, but mine's "better"! So then there are a bunch >>> of θ_λs (perspectives). The odd thing is that each Scientist talks about >>> their pet θ_λ as being the world-as-it-is. >> >> You must be thinking of philosophers. Scientists propose an experiment to >> see which theory is better. >> >> Brent >> >> >> >> I don't see much evidence for that. Look at the 100s of papers on arXiv on >> all the competing models for quantum gravity, dark matter, dark energy, >> modified gravity, cosmic inflation, ... >> >> >> And these papers are written mostly by Ph.D. physicists, not Ph.D. >> philosophers. > > > And some propose empirical tests. Have you seen even one philosopher propose > an empirical test?
Newton, Huygens, etc. Of course that “natural philosophy” is now called “physical science". For metaphysics/theology, you need to wait … for my work :) It is hard to imagine something more easily refutable (in principle): compare the physical reality (inferred by observation) and the physical reality (deduced by mechanism + the math of machine’s introspection). > > Phyicist: I need $200,000 for a new vacuum chamber to test my theory. > Dean: You physicists, always asking for money. Why can't you be like the > mathematicians? All they need are pencil, paper, and erasers. Or like the > philosophers. All they need is pencil and paper. Lol Note that a mathematician, and even a physicist, does not necessarily need an eraser, only a big trash. Well, if mechanism and/or quantum mechanics is right. In fact erasers (absolute erasers) probably do not exist. Bruno > >> >> - pt >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list >> <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
