> On 25 Apr 2019, at 08:18, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 2:42 pm, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > <everything-list@googlegroups.com <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > But it happens all the time. How do you think you move your body if not by > top-down influence in levels from consciousness ? > > At the molecular level, if this were true, we would see miracles happening, > like a table levitating without any applied force. No such thing has ever > been observed. Neurons and muscle cells only fire according to the laws of > physics. If you documented an example of a miracle in the brain you would > overthrow science and be famous.
Right. Then, semf-refering program, and even Mars Rover, makes top-down decision and action. Cosmin is not aware that Gödel’s theorem has definitely kill any possible reductive theory of numbers and machine, and in fact all universal machine knows that, in technically precise sense of knowing. To make consciousness primary is a bit like invoking a personal god. It is a way to abandon the search. Bruno > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
