On 5/1/2019 10:19 AM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
No, this is the mistake that you make. You confuse artificial entities
with natural entities. In an artificial entities the functional parts
that they contain are 100% knowable by us, because it is us who put
them there in the first place.
No. We assemble them. But they are not 100% knowable, c.f. Holevo's
theorem.
On the other hand, in a natural entity, the functional parts are not
completely known to us. You can look at the brain and see neurons, but
you cannot conclude from this that neurons are all there are there.
No. But you can experiment and determine what happens when one is
removed or stimulated.
There can be an infinite amount of invisible entities, dark matter,
dark energy, who knows what, that contributes to what the brain is and
does. Therefore, you cannot look at the brain as a machine.
I can as an hypothesis. And I can make intelligent machines .
This of course, besides the fact that the brain does not exist, being
just a quale in consciousness.
You keep saying that as though it has some significance. It's fine that
you attempt and idealist TOE and take quale as fundamental. But it is
silly to then say a brain is just quale. In you theory everything is
just quale. But you need to explain why brain quale are different from
computer quale and muscle quale. Why having thumping quale interact
(how?) with brain quale results in no quale?
Brent
You can even have a look at my SAND presentation if you want to hear
once more how the brain does not exist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMAy6ft-ZQ
On Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:42:48 UTC+3, Brent wrote:
Brent
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