> On 20 May 2019, at 11:13, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
> <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> They are synonymous. Look at Berkeley or Locke to see how they use the word 
> "idea". That's where also "idealism" comes from.

Experience concerns the soul, or the first person. Mind and ideas are more 
general. The “world of ideas” is well handled by the “phi_i”. It is all the 3p 
reality accessible by a Turing machine. The experience and soul are semantical 
fixed point for transformation on the world of ideas.

You confirm my feeling that Mechanism, despite its immaterialism, is not an 
idealism. We accept the arithmetical reality (we postulate “2+2=4” & Co., and 
derive experience and ideas from there.

Bruno



> 
> On Sunday, 19 May 2019 20:11:50 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
>> On 17 May 2019, at 13:00, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
>> <everyth...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote:
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>> "Matter" is an idea in consciousness.
> 
> Even an experience, before becoming an idea.
> 
> Bruno
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