On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 20 Jun 2019, at 14:05, John Clark <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
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> Bruno Marchal Wrote:
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> > *Jesus (which I think has never claim to be literally a god).*
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> What are you talking about? Jesus not only claimed to be a god he claimed 
> to be *THE* God, son of the Father and partner (or something) of the Holy 
> Ghost which were all part of the Holy Trinity. You must have heard of the 
> Holy Trinity, the 3 persons in one God crap, Christianity's pathetic 
> attempt to have its cake and eat it too and have the advantages of both 
> monotheism and polytheism. Officially the 3 persons are supposed to be 
> equal but I always felt the Holy Ghost was the junior partner, the Ringo 
> Star of the Holy Trinity, the Garfunkel in Simon and Garfunkel.
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>
> References? I have search any indications that Jesus claimed this, but the 
> references comes aways after 529.
> You persists in defending the official doctrine of the christians, the one 
> imposed by terror and authoritative argument. 
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> The trinity might have come from Plotinus three hypostases, and 
> St-Augustin has used them to make sense of it (the christian trinity).
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> Mathematical logic is born from a more recent discussion, between Anglican 
> Unionist and Anglican trinitarian. Just to introduced more rigor in that 
> discussion. See the book of Daniel J. Cohen:
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> Cohen J. Daniel, 2007. Equations from God, Pure Mathematics and 
> Victorian Faith, John Hopkins Press, Baltimore.
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> Bruno
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> > *To say “I am god” is a sort of blasphemy.*
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> Well sure, but you almost make it sound like blasphemy is a bad thing. The 
> problem with saying "I am God" isn't that it's blasphemous it's that it 
> demonstrates severe mental illness.
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> *> Only atheists talk about God.*
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> I really don't know what I can say about a remark as monumentally silly as 
> that.
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> John K Clark
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>

In the text, a *Trinity *[Father, Son, and Holy Ghost] is rather clear, 
while Jesus *equals* God (rather than a Son, Father relationship), not 
really.

*No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and*
[a]* is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.*
[a]  Some manuscripts *but the only Son, who* [John 1:18]

*But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, 
will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to 
you.* [John 14:26]


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