> On 20 Jun 2019, at 20:23, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 20 Jun 2019, at 14:05, John Clark <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >> Bruno Marchal Wrote: >> >> > Jesus (which I think has never claim to be literally a god). >> >> What are you talking about? Jesus not only claimed to be a god he claimed to >> be THE God, son of the Father and partner (or something) of the Holy Ghost >> which were all part of the Holy Trinity. You must have heard of the Holy >> Trinity, the 3 persons in one God crap, Christianity's pathetic attempt to >> have its cake and eat it too and have the advantages of both monotheism and >> polytheism. Officially the 3 persons are supposed to be equal but I always >> felt the Holy Ghost was the junior partner, the Ringo Star of the Holy >> Trinity, the Garfunkel in Simon and Garfunkel. > > References? I have search any indications that Jesus claimed this, but the > references comes aways after 529. > You persists in defending the official doctrine of the christians, the one > imposed by terror and authoritative argument. > > The trinity might have come from Plotinus three hypostases, and St-Augustin > has used them to make sense of it (the christian trinity). > > Mathematical logic is born from a more recent discussion, between Anglican > Unionist and Anglican trinitarian. Just to introduced more rigor in that > discussion. See the book of Daniel J. Cohen: > > Cohen J. Daniel, 2007. Equations from God, Pure Mathematics and Victorian > Faith, John Hopkins Press, Baltimore. > > Bruno > > Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on > the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. > > Moses in שְׁמוֹת (Shemot) or Exodus is addressed by God as "I am." To even > just say "I am" amounts to declaring oneself God. The Gospels have a number > of instances with Jesus saying this.
Even if some time traveller show me Jesus transforming water into wine, I would believe that the most plausible explanation is that Jesus is a good prestidigitator. And the Moses quote, as well as what you say about the Gospel confirms my feeling, which is that by “I am” or “I am God”, Jesus just makes the usual claim of those having a mystic, or spcyhdelic, experience. He is not calming that he, and only he, is the literal son of God. They seems to say the normal things, which is that we are gods. All of us. With mechanism, that includes bacteria and any universal number. But we better no say it, and let people to discover this by themselves (it belongs to G* minus G). Bruno > > LC > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/221f4fb2-fb65-4caf-916b-67a0c18ace4d%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/221f4fb2-fb65-4caf-916b-67a0c18ace4d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4ABDB89E-149C-4610-B4A0-E98308774504%40ulb.ac.be.
