> On 22 Jul 2019, at 15:26, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 22, 2019 at 5:46:25 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > I think you make the old age confusion between epistemology and ontology. > > Can anything be known without a brain knowing it?
A brain cannot know anything, I would say. Only a (first) person can know, and a brain can make a person manifesting itself, and its knowledge, relatively to you, but eventually, the brains that we can observe, like any piece of matter, is better described as a map of the local histories you can access with great probabilities relative probabilities. Indeed, that is similar to the electronic orbitals, which describes the map of where the electron(s) can be found if you decide to measure their positions. Bruno > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/672b7c38-c830-4e21-a54a-923d359529e1%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/672b7c38-c830-4e21-a54a-923d359529e1%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/AB4C4E48-ADF9-48FC-8761-B023C4339495%40ulb.ac.be.