On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 12:21 AM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> On 16 Aug 2019, at 13:30, Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:23 PM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > >> On 16 Aug 2019, at 03:27, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> On 8/15/2019 5:06 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:25 AM Lawrence Crowell < >> goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I started reading this. It looks similar to the PR box argument. >>> >> >> I have skimmed through it. It seems that Alice and Bob both split locally >> according to the results they get, but then rely on magic to prevent the >> incorrect pairs ever meeting. >> >> >> I think you can interpret it as decoherence spreads at light speed from >> Alice's measurement event and decoheres Bob's system when it comes within >> the future light cone of Alice's measurement....and vice versa, which is >> why it needs to assume MWI to maintain symmetry between Alice and Bob. >> >> >> That is my understanding. That explains entirely, it seems to me, the >> violation of Bell’s inequality in a local, but multi-versal type of >> reality. When Alice and Bob separates, they simply never meet again, but >> both can meet their correlated counterparts. Each Alice and each Bob can >> meet only their correlates, that they enforce by decoherence, at a speed >> lower than light. >> > > > That doesn't explain anything. > > > I know you’ve already try to expand on this, but it seems to me that this > was based on some incorrect interpretation of the notion of worlds, like if > a measurement made by Alice has to change the possible outcomes available > to Bob, but that does not happen in the relative state view. Only a > physical collapse would entail some “action at a distance”; without > collapse anywhere, I don’t see how could such influence at a distance > occurs. We did disagree also on the numbers of histories involved, which I > take to be always infinite. > Clarify your argument, then, and remove the suggestion of magic. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRsC3m5s9hf5Ofb3RW%2BDAd0NHzhhEmYeb9E6G7w7KJcwg%40mail.gmail.com.
