> On 24 Sep 2019, at 10:22, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 3:05:39 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 1:36:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 8:44:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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> On 9/23/2019 6:24 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 3:44:49 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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>> On 9/23/2019 11:59 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
>>> But other quantum experts use decoherence to explain quantum phenomena 
>>> without invoking multiple universes.
>> 
>> "Without invoking" doesn't mean "denying". 
>> 
>> It does if you believe in applying Occam's Razor. AG 
> 
> True.  But I'm still waiting for pt to quote this expert saying he explains 
> quantum phenomena without MW.  He keeps implying it's Zurek, but I just read 
> Zurek's paper on quantum Darwinism again and ISTM Zurek is assuming MWI 
> throughout.  QD is just his solution to the basis problem.
> 
> Brent
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> Zurek is not on a book tour, nor does he tweet, but after the rollout of 
> Carroll's book, one can only conclude:
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>           Many Worlds is religion, not science.
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> @philipthrift 
> 
>  Right. You'll notice how my comment that the MWI is tantamount to "hubris on 
> steroids" was never responded to. Hopefully, he'll be denied tenure, and his 
> book and personage can go into the dustbin of history, where it belongs. AG 
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> I can't believe (well, I guess I can believe) the number of physicist who 
> think MWI is a valuable contribution to science.  If you tell them otherwise 
> they they you that you don't understand physics. Many Worlds is "in the math" 
> (as Sean Carroll claims) so it must be true.
> 
> They engage in magical thinking, but think they are doing science. Amazing.

The many-histories is a logical consequence of the theory. To assume a theory 
without accepting its consequence is just wrong, or irrational.

Bruno




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