On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 7:05:12 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
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>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium just 
>>>> before inflation is alleged to have begun, is extremely WEAK. Thus, it's 
>>>> illogical to claim that inflation "smooths out" the alleged NON thermo 
>>>> equiiibrium just before inflation begun. AG 
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is essentially what I said. Lawrence is just replacing one set of 
>>> unknown initial conditions with another, equally unjustified, set.
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>>> Bruce
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> In below & means δ. I forgot to replace them.
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> LC
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>> The entropy is S = A/4ℓ_p^2 +  quantum corrections, where these 
>> corrections are ~ (&S/&h^a)k^a. Here h^a is tangent to the horizon and k^a 
>> is normal. This condition coincident on a null surface can appear on a 
>> quantum extremal surface with null tangent g^s so that (&S/&h^a)k^a ≥ 
>> (&S/&g^a)k^a by subadditivity. However, this surface occurs inside the 
>> cosmological horizon. This means there is no equilibriium. Equilibrium is 
>> only approximated by stretching the horizon out to enormous distance after 
>> the spatial surface has inflated. 
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>> It is the case that inflation does not tell us the whole story prior to 
>> inflation. So one can say there are equally unknown initial conditions. 
>> However, the details of those are less important as the spatial manifold is 
>> stretched out. That means inflation does provide at least a working system. 
>>
>> LC
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Assuming the universe was incredibly tiny prior to inflation, and was 
therefore causally connected, isn't it reasonable to assume that it had 
reached thermo equilibrium *prior* to the onset of inflation? AG 

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