On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:21:32 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 8:07:46 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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>> On 10/12/2019 5:46 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>>>> What does "realized" mean?  made real?  Being real is a metaphysical 
>>>> concept.  Bohr never said anything about components of a superposition 
>>>> being real.  He famously said “Physics is not about how the world is, 
>>>> it is about what we can say about the world” and “Everything we call real 
>>>> is made of things that cannot be regarded as real.”
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>>>> Brent
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>>> The latter comment is ridiculous. Aren't protons, neutrons and electrons 
>>> real? 
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>>> Ask Bohr.  You never answer my questions; why should I answer yours.
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>>> Brent
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>> What questions haven't I answered??? AG 
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>> Scan up until you see this symbol "?"
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>> Brent
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> I explained what "realized" means by giving an example; S's cat, alive and 
> dead simultaneously. Also, I said I would get back to you about spin 
> superpositions when I have time to research the issue. Other than those 
> items, I honestly have no idea what you're complaining about. Try asking me 
> again. AG 
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Maybe this is what you want; my definition or concept of what's "real" or 
"realizable". It's something that's measurable, like the fundamental 
particles; or in Vic's terminology, something that "kicks back".  AG

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