Events are really just materials extended into the fourth dimension of time.
Idealism is of course rather silly. The idea that all that exists is consciousness is a "feel good" idea that is utterly preposterous. It is a conceit that should make any reasonable person feel rather ill. We are in fact not ideal. The only empirically supportable purpose that might exist for the human species is for us to grab onto what ever we can in the natural world and convert it all into trash. We are doing a damned good job of it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faU-SK0pHCI LC On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 7:12:17 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > Probably the single big confusion that lead to the creation of materialism > is the confusion between ontological states and their epistemic content. > People experienced the ontological state with epistemic content of "chair > outside me" and they took the epistemic content as representing an > ontological state of the world, so they thought there really is a "chair > outside me", when the real ontological state was that of a state of > consciousness. Therefore, it appears that in order to get rid of > materialism is to stop making this confusion. The problem that arises is > that no matter how hard we would try to do that, any retreat from the > epistemic content of an ontological state will only gives us just another > ontological state with the only difference being a different epistemic > content. No matter what, we cannot escape epistemic contents. Is idealism > therefore fundamentally unthinkable ? > > I opened this topic after reading about process philosophy. They say that > the solution to understanding the world is to not think in terms of > "substances", but in terms of "events". The problem is that "events" is > also an epistemic content, in the sense that the concept of "event" is > extrapolated from the subjective feeling of passage of time. But the > "passage of time" is just a quality/an epistemic state of consciousness. To > take it as revealing to us a deep character of the world is to do the same > mistake materialism is doing. So, in order to avoid the mistake of > materialism is to recognize this fact, and thus to reject that "event" can > be anything ontologically meaningful. Is there any way to escape this > vicious circle of confusions between ontological states and epistemic > contents and get to an idealistic conception of the world, or is idealism > fundamentally unthinkable ? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/f251ef0e-c43b-459a-aa8c-cb73e439cf28%40googlegroups.com.
