> On 27 Oct 2019, at 06:55, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> On 10/26/2019 10:48 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>> On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 11:42:21 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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>> On 10/26/2019 10:31 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: 
>> > QM does suggest a particle can be in several paths simultaneously, but 
>> > we don't have a concept to understand how that can be. AG 
>> 
>> Who says we don't have that concept?  We have the mathematics to 
>> describe and predict it.  What more do you want...something that would 
>> convince Aristotle or your great-grandmother?  Nature doesn't need to 
>> adjust to your intuition; it's the other way around. 
>> 
>> Brent 
>> 
>> That's the "shut up and calculate" philosophy. So was Feynman wrong when he 
>> said no one understands QM? AG
> 
> You still haven't said what you mean by "understand".  What is it over and 
> above being able to correctly apply the mathematics and get the right answer. 
>  What is it you think Zurek or Carroll or Lawrence or Schlosshauer don't 
> understand?  

The mind body problem.


> 
> Brent
> I have given you a proof.  I'm not obliged to give you an understanding.--- 
> Oliver Heaviside

The understanding is an argument that the theory in which the proof is given is 
consistent. We ask for a model, or a reality making sense of the axioms.

Bruno




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