> On 20 Feb 2020, at 21:59, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think Bruce's position is that quantum processes are inherently random and > thus NOT computable. Doesn't this conclusion, if true, totally disconfirm > Bruno's theory that the apparent physical universe comes into being by > computations of arithmetic pre-existing principles or postulates? AG
On the contrary, Mechanism reduces the apparent indeterminacy to the computable. With mechanism, things might be too much non computable, when you take the first person indeterminacy into account. Then the math shows that this refutation of mechanism does not work, as the computations are done with the exact redundancy making the physical reality enough computable to get stable histories. Mechanism entails that the physical reality cannot be entirely computed, like it predicted that no piece of matter can be cloned. Indeed, it emerges from a non computable statistics on infinitely many computation, which are not algorithmically recognisable in arithmetic. We can test mechanism by measuring its degree of non computability. Too much computable would be more problematic than too much non-computable. Bruno > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/046a14e8-4762-4eb2-b870-961bced37a6c%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/046a14e8-4762-4eb2-b870-961bced37a6c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2BFC5409-E950-4732-9806-7D6341F60125%40ulb.ac.be.

