On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 10:19:52 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 8:21:30 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:22:23 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:39 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
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>>> > Could it be the case that Casimir plates attract each other due to 
>>>> electrostatic forces and not vacuum energy? 
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course not! Don't you thing getting rid of electrostatic forces would 
>>> be the very first thing any even halfway competent experimental scientists 
>>> would think of before he even dreamed of performing such a super delicate 
>>> experiment? 
>>>
>>>  John K Clark 
>>>
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>> Experiments done on the space shuttle and in Germany (where free fall is 
>> simulated) have shown that dust particles accumulate due to electrostatic 
>> forces, thus changing the model for how planets formed. And if you read the 
>> excerpt from the Wiki article I posted, MIT physicists, in 1997 IIRC, were 
>> able to explain the Casimir effect without appealing to vacuum energy. AG
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> If the two Casimir plates are grounded there will be no electrostatic 
> potential between them.  Elementary electricity.
>
> LC
>

I'm not sure how the MIT physicist did the experiment. I just know the 
claim; that he accounted for the forces on the plates without need of 
appealing to vacuum energy. I'll see if I can find the paper and post it. 
AG 

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