On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 11:37 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
* >That the Born rule doesn't derive from the Schroedinger equation doesn't > bother me. * > We don't need to derive the Born Rule from the Schroedinger equation or from anything else to know it's true because we already know from experimentation that it's true. But Copenhagen, Many Worlds, Pilot Wave and every other quantum interpretation needs to derive the Born Rule to prove that it has the right interpretation. If Many Worlds hasn't managed to achieve that high goal it has at least come closer to doing so than any other interpretation, at least so far. * > Gleason's theorem guarantees it's the only consistent probability > measure in the eigenstates of an observable. The question seems to be why > is there probability at all. * > Yes! > * > But I see the unpredictability of measured values and that intrinsic > randomness is necessary to protect relativity theory.* > I see it is simply a result of the fact that you can't be sure where you are until you open your eyes and look, aka make an observation. If I use Bruno's patented You Duplicating Machine then even after Brent Meeker has been duplicated "You" will not know if "you" are in Moscow or Washington until "you" open the door of the duplicating chamber and look out; until that point "you" could be said to exist in both cities, or in neither city, or in whatever place you happen to be thinking about because contrary to what generations have been taught in grammar school "you" Is not a pronoun, "you" is an adjective; you are the way matter behaves when it is organized in a Brentmeekerian way. And until the instant the doors are open and the 2 see 2 different things those 2 chunks of matter have the same memories and behave exactly the same way. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1RjUYHu5qh0sNNfMKDu48koL5mGf9rCkfWCqf8txu%3Daw%40mail.gmail.com.