On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 2:50 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
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*> Was Jimmy Carter and Ronny Reagan's decisions bad, to push Pershing
> missiles into NATO horribly wrong as a response to Breshnev's SS20's,
> because after a nuke war, the few survivors would freeze to death? *


There are 7.7 billion people on the earth, after a nuclear war if there was
not a nuclear winter there would be billions of deaths but there would also
be billions of survivors, but if there was a nuclear winter too then there
would be few if any survivors and the human race could easily go extinct.
And if you ask me what's the difference between 2 billion deaths and 7
billion deaths I'd say 5 billion. In questions of morality arithmetic CAN
be used to find the proper thing to do.

In retrospect it's easy to see that putting medium-range ballistic missiles
In Europe turned out to be a good idea, it helped keep the peace. And
despite Hiroshima and Nagasaki I think it's pretty clear that nuclear
weapons have saved more lives than they ended, that's why the second half
of the 20th century was so much less bloody than the first half. In fact,
right now is the least bloody time in the history of the world per capita.

*> I'd say the Nuke Winter argument was irrelevant even though pimped by
> Sagan and Postrel.*


I'd say World War III will either cause a nuclear winter or it won't and it
has nothing to do with political ideology it has to do with physics. And I
must say that if I knew absolutely nothing about a subject and you said one
thing and Sagan said the opposite I'd tend to believe Sagan.

*> Thus, the opinions of scientists are not sacrosanct*


But the opinion of that great thinker spudboy100 is?  By the way, does it
say "spudboy100" on your driver's license? Is that the name you put on your
income tax return? I'm not ashamed of what I write, that's why I always use
my real name.

 John K Clark

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