[John Clark]
You are entirely right to sate: "400 years ago Galileo found a way of
converting one reference frame to another that worked very well as long as the
speeds involved we're not extremely large, and when they were Einstein found a
way 100 years ago that could be used to develop an entirely consistent way of
converting one reference frame into another that also conformed with all known
experimental results".
There is no logical fallacy here. The fallacy arises when categories are
mixed in the two separate frames of reference. "Mixing categories" is not
"converting reference-frames". Infinity1 (odd numbers) + Infinity2 (even
numbers) + Infinity3 (odd + even) = 1 Infinity (numbers). The essence here is
"numbers". To go back to Samiya Illias comment on Koranic eternal solitary,
solipsistic Unitary-ness vs Scriptural (Augustinian) Triunity-ness, One
essence three Persons of the aseitous Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim
(uni-plural) is eternally Communicative and is no logical fallacy.
Philip Benjmain
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Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 1:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] FW: Falling Outward (was: Words,
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 10:13 AM Philip Benjamin
<medinucl...@hotmail.com<mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> One has to stick with the same frame of reference in any reasonable argument.
No, you are entirely wrong and way way behind the times. 400 years ago Galileo
found a way of converting one reference frame to another that worked very well
as long as the speeds involved we're not extremely large, and when they were
Einstein found a way 100 years ago that could be used to develop an entirely
consistent way of converting one reference frame into another that also
conformed with all known experimental results, and It even worked when the
reference frames were accelerating.
< Integers and points belong to two different frames of reference. To bring
them into the same reference frame is a logical fallacy.
Numbers have no units, therefore 10 apples and 10 oranges have one thing in
common, the integer 10. It's the same 10 in both cases. And all the positive
integers have something in common with all the negative integers, Aleph-0. That
sort of generality is the very reason mathematics is such a useful tool and
helping us figure out how the world works. If that were not true mathematics
would not be of much use or interest.
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