> On 24 Feb 2021, at 19:47, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 2/24/2021 12:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> 
>>> On 24 Feb 2021, at 05:14, spudboy100 via Everything List 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well look at it this way The billionaires the globalist all the same funded 
>>> and conspired with news media according to Time magazine a couple of weeks 
>>> ago to get their China money back which was the essence of their opposition 
>>> to the orange man. Going forward it's going to be more interesting to see 
>>> what happens with the US domestic economy first, and then see if the 
>>> so-called Democrats decide to use political oppression on top of this. What 
>>> I am guessing is that if and when they do, and it is no certainty, we'll 
>>> see a rebellion in the USA, because not everybody in this continent is so 
>>> easily persuaded by whatever Obama and Kamala and of course Joe have to say 
>>> about things specifically don't lose sight of the fact that it is there 
>>> oligarchy that is running things now and not the US middle class and I 
>>> think things will break along class lines if it when things go bad 
>>> especially economically. Peace out!
>> 
>> In a democracy, the idea is to vote on the Left when the country go to much 
>> on the Right, and to vote on the Right when the country go to much on the 
>> left. That is an important degree of “freedom”. We can only pray that we 
>> don’t go off the sinuous reality road.
>> Now, when we put bandits into power, they are difficult to dislodge. If they 
>> are clever, they will still respect the democratic rule, and influence only 
>> by lies. If they are “stupid”, they will show that they are bandits, like in 
>> Trump case, and … to me the US has shown that democracy still works in the 
>> US, and hope remains.
>> I am a republican, (centre-right) but I consider Trump to represent the 
>> extreme left, like defending Russia and North Korea against Europa, and 
>> apparently against the US interests.
>> A rotten democracy is still better than any Tyranny.
>> 
>> Bruno
> 
> I don't know why you would associate defending Russia and North Korea as 
> leftist.  Russia is run by a mob oligarchy and NK is a hereditary monarchy.  
> There's nothing "leftist" about them.  

That’s true, and I already said that to my leftist friends in the 1960s and 
70s. 
There is nothing leftist or rightist about any authoritarian regime, except 
names. (Well, except some small nuances also, but fundamentally, without 
democracy “right” and “left” are no more ideas, but label to attracts some 
people in some circumstances.



> Trump is as racist as any Nazi;

I agree.

Note that nazism was called national socialisme (Nationalsozialismus), despite 
being rightly considered at the extreme right, but some put it at the extreme 
left: it was the party of the German workers…

Extreme right and extreme left are basically the same, and they are against 
democracy, and they see their opponents as dissident, or enemies...



> just read about his behavior toward the Central Park Five.  He really has no 
> political ideology. 

I agree. He is a con man escaping forward. At the start he was Democrat, I 
read. But for him, right and left are just tools for his egocentric concern. I 
think he is a sort of autiste. He deserves the jail, or some medical treatment, 
perhaps. 

It is just that by Left or extreme Left, we mean the party who defended the 
Soviets (and satellites) against America and Europa, like the French communist 
party. North Korea is of course just a blind monarchy, it is not to the left or 
right, but it belongs to the club of countries defended by the left for many 
years, like the Communist China, Russia, etc. 

Without a democracy, right and left have not much meaning.


> He is only idea is that he's right and everybody should admire him for being 
> so smart and tough.

No problem with this. I agree. 

Bruno



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