[Philip Benjamin]
   There is no need for confounding the self-evident physical reality with an 
illusion, if and only if two different physical realities exist: 1. Ordinary 
materialism of ordinary light matter with its chemistry (chemical bonds); 2. 
Extraordinary materialism of extraordinary dark-: matter with its chemistry. As 
to which one is primary or secondary is a matter of philosophic choice!! (Note: 
Chemical bonds are spin governed particle configurations of duets and octets).  
Mathematics of Computer and computation will not explain the invisible (dark) 
consciousness.
      Feeling a sense of loss for free-will is not the same as understanding 
the reality that something within is external to the ordinary natural realm, 
and subject to influence from outside which can be an extraordinarily physical 
realm of dark-matter with its chemistry. This may be the source of the "hard" 
part of free-will and consciousness. Then, there is no contradiction between 
the reality and the phenomenology of the "free will including psychology, 
morality and law, and the discoveries of science. From the very moment of 
conception, the resonant  "dark" & "light" twins are formed recognizing each 
other-the basis for at least self-awareness. Resonance is rudimentary 
recognition. Light matter bodies are electric, entropic and decaying. 
Dark-matter bodies are non-electric, nonentropic and undying. The chasm between 
death and life is obviously abysmal and beyond the scope of science. When a 
light matter twin dies, the dark twin will be left at a negative energy state 
of at least -E = - mC^2 where m is the mass of the light twin. Only an external 
source of power much greater than that can bring the dark twin back to any 
operational level. There is "The Additional Mass of Life" for a living organism 
in a hermitically sealed system, which disappears at death reported by Amrit S. 
Sorli, Scientific Research Centre BISTRA, Ptuj, Slovenia, 
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary; doi=10.1.1.218.573;  
https://core.ac.uk/display/21767122. 2012, Journal of Theoretics Vol.4-2).
      A failure to distinguish an illusory but rigidly misunderstood concept 
from the actuality will not explain consciousness.  A "real" sunset is not the 
illusion of sun splashing into the water, it is ultimately the motion of the 
earth and gravity. The natural order of time, motion, matter and space are all 
in intact. A mirage is likewise a "real" physical phenomenon from refracted 
light, heat and materiality, only the effects of the realities are illusory. 
Dark-matter bodies are likewise real but operate invisibly.  It is really in 
the nature of the actual moral behavior of people or in the nature of actual 
subjective experience to be unaccountable for  known behaviors.  Because, no 
conceptual analysis by a dying "light" body can be precise clarification of the 
intents of an undying 'dark" body. The concepts we use can become dangerously 
misleading not because of any illusionary or faulty or inadequate and 
misleading notions and intuitions of realities, but because of the atavistic 
and innate dissonance between dying and undying "twins".  The increase of 
biophoton emission rates under stress or trauma of living cells, with a burst 
at death of the cells, is a measure of this dissonance. (It must be noted here 
that there is an increase of biophoton emission rates by an order of magnitude 
across the taxa from human to plants, indicating taxonomic differences between 
interactions of light and dark chemical bonds.  Ref: "Spiritual Body or 
Physical Spirit? Your Invisible Doppelgänger"  Sunbury Press 2013) .
Philip Benjamin

   CC. Carlo Rovelli PhD, Theoretical Physicist, "The Old Fisherman's Mistake" 
http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/18837/1/Pescatore.pdf.

From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List  Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:35 PM  To: 
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Subject: Fwd: Carlo Rovelli: The Old Fisherman's Mistake
-------- Forwarded Message -------- The Old Fisherman's Mistake   ROVELLI, 
Carlo (2021)

Abstract

A number of thorny issues such as the nature of time, free will, the clash of 
the manifest and scientific images, the possibility of a naturalistic 
foundation of morality, and perhaps even the possibility of accounting for 
consciousness in naturalistic terms, seem to me to be plagued by the conceptual 
confusion nourished by a single fallacy: the old fisherman's mistake.

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Rovelli has it exactly right.

Brent

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