Well, as we have seen economic troubles come and go. My historical, not hysterical is you bounce back much quicker with capital investment and less so with "Companies too big to Fail," aka Crony Capitalism. If you wish vengeance upon the Oligarchy (I am not reading this from you in past specific writings) there seemed to be a bigger (temporary) bounce back under Bush 43, from 2001, and The Donald. Clinton back in the 90's did a Republican economy and sailed past his impeachment because why screw up a good thing, over an oval office humjob (physics term indicating exciton particles)? Bush brought us out from 9-11, even tho he and had Clinton let terrorists race all over the US, and then with the Frank Dodd housing bubble, let everything go into the storm drain. Trump did well enough on economics via job production. Joe basically is taking things hour by hour, and will throw money if the barking dogs get too close, because it worked early this year, correct? Unemployment plus kickbacks and many were happy, true? Yeah I do follow the Cerebras announcement as well as this and that with the quantum, and yes, the machines shall ascend as they must. One of the purchasers of GPT/4 Cerebras is Astra-Zeneca, so maybe being a hideously young and long lived serf is the price to be paid for not having work?
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Cc: te...@telmomenezes.net <te...@telmomenezes.net> Sent: Wed, Sep 1, 2021 7:03 am Subject: Re: The American Taliban On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:17 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > You are a total DNC supporter Actually for most of my life I was a registered Republican, but I officially changed my affiliation from Republican to Democrat on August 3 2011, the day after Republicans pushed the country to within 45 minutes of defaulting on the national debt which would've been an economic Chernobyl. Even before that I had noticed a disturbingly large number of Republicans were getting on the crazy train but that lunacy was the final straw. Trump didn't create the Republican crazy train, he just hooked his clown car onto it and put the train into hyperdrive heading for Looneyville. > You cannot be a Libertarian JC. That is true, I'm not a Libertarian, I'm a libertarian (small l). My contempt for the Libertarian party is boundless. As for my libertarian credentials, although I don't drink and I've never even had a marijuana cigarette, I believe somebody should have the right to put any chemical they wish into their body, including heroin, including cyanide. I believe making somebody live when they want to die is as reprehensible as making somebody die when they want to live. I am pretty much an absolutist when it comes to freedom of speech, so I think all libel laws should be abolished. I am strongly in favor of free trade. I believe it was a mistake to put freedom of religion in the US Constitution because if you have freedom of speech and freedom of assembly you get freedom of religion automatically, there are an infinite number of things you can do with those freedoms and worshiping an invisible man in the sky it's just one of them. > Libertarians believe "Governments that govern best, govern least." Yeah... the thing is ... as much as I love libertarianism I love the scientific method even more, so if I observe it's not working then my strict libertarian philosophy will just have to be modified. At one time I went even further then advocating small government, I thought there shouldn't be any government at all; I was very big on things like Privately Produced Law enforced by Private Protection Agencies; and I still think if we were starting from scratch that would have been a better road to take than the road that leads to nation states, but I have come to the conclusion that it's far too late for that now, we are nowhere near to starting from scratch. I no longer think it's feasible to get rid of nation states, at least not without the transition causing mega-death and not before a singularity occurs caused by AI or Nanotechnology or Quantum Computers or Genetic Engineering. At one time I also thought society shouldn't be concerned with wealth distribution, I always knew that policy would someday have to change due to advances in technology, but I thought that was so far in the future that we didn't need to worry about it now. However things have developed faster than I figured they would. Spud, I don't know what you do for a living but whatever it is it's only a matter of time, and probably not a great deal of time, before a machine can do that job better than you can, and you and tens of millions of people just like you will not only be unemployed but unemployable. A recent survey was conducted by the University of Oxford of 352 prominent AI researchers, this is the average prediction on when they think AI will outperform humans at various tasks: Translate languages better than any human = 2024 Write high school level essays better than human high schoolers = 2026Drive trucks better than humans = 2027Work in retail = 2031 Write books = 2049Perform surgery = 2053Be better than humans at everything = 2062 John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolisbb2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0kFFAMVZ2LjgPb1gXcD1xY0CZFhZCwD4oqit8a_NjCnA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1807176426.1382586.1630528639914%40mail.yahoo.com.
